Minutes of the Second Meeting of the National Anomaly Committee



F.N0.11/2/2008-JCA
Government of India
Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pensions
(Department of Personnel & Training)

North Block, New Delhi
Dated the 4th May, 2010


OFFICE MEMORANDUM


Subject: Minutes of the Second Meeting of the National Anomaly Committee held on 27th March, 2010.


The undersigned is directed to forward a copy of the minutes of the Second Meeting of the National Anomaly Committee held on 27thMarch, 2010 in Conference Hall (Room No. 119), North Block, New Delhi under the Chairmanship of Secretary (Personnel) for information and necessary action.


(Dinesh Kapila)
Deputy Secretary (JCA)



MINUTES OF THE SECOND MEETING OF
NATIONAL ANOMALY COMMITTEE HELD ON
27TH MARCH 2010

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The Second meeting of the National Anomaly Committee (NAC) was held on 27th March 2010 in Conference Room No.119, North Block, New Delhi under the Chairmanship of Secretary (Personnel). A list of participants who attended the meeting is annexed.



2.At the outset, the Chairman welcomed the representatives of the Staff Side and Official Side. Referring to the interesting and fruitful discussions held during the first meeting of the NAC on 12th December 2009, the Chairman stated that some progress has been made and stated that action taken on the decisions taken in the first meeting shall be shared with the staff side. The Chairman then suggested that issues pertaining to pensions may be taken up first for discussions as the representatives of the Department of Pension & Pensioners' & welfare had to attend another meeting, although that meeting had been postponed. The Chairman also informed that the 46th Meeting of the National Council (JCM) has been scheduled to be held on 15th May 2010 under the Chairmanship of Cabinet Secretary. The Chairman also reiterated the resolve of the Government to ensure early resolution of all the anomalies by holding meaningful discussions with the staff side. Thereafter, the Chairman invited the Leader and Secretary of Staff Side to make the opening remarks before moving to the agenda items.



3. Leader of the Staff Side Shri M. Raghaviah thanked the Chairman for convening the second meeting of the National Anomaly Committee. He further stated that employees are anxiously waiting for the NAC to produce results. Referring to the anomaly in the date of next increment, Shri. Raghaviah stated that this anomaly should be removed without any further delay. He further stated that action taken on the minutes of the First meeting of NAC should be discussed. Thereafter, Shri Raghaviah drew the attention of the Committee towards the problems emanating from the modified ACP Scheme and requested for early rectification of the same.



4. Secretary of the Staff Side Shri Umraomal Purohit thanked the Chairman and stated that the report of the 6th Pay Commission is absolutely new and therefore, there are certain concerns which must be addressed suitably. Referring to the issue of change in the definition of anomaly which was raised during the first meeting of the NAG, he stated that the Terms of Reference for the NAC constituted after the 5th CPC were jointly agreed. He further stated that this agreed definition of anomaly was changed after the 6th CPC and the Chairman had assured in the last meeting that this should not lead to any problems. However, another related problem anticipated by the staff side is that the present definition would form the basis for formulating the Terms of Reference of the NAC after the 7th CPC and this could lead to problems at that time. Therefore, while currently there may not be any problem due to deletion of the particular para from the definition of anomaly. but in future there could be some dispute regarding the agreed definition of anomaly as generally, the government works on the basis of precedents. He, therefore, requested that this aspect should be recorded in the minutes of the meeting so as to obviate problems I disputes in future. He then referred to the general recommendation of the 6th CPC that all such allowances, in respect of which there was no specific recommendation, should be doubled. He further stated about the recommendation of 6th CPC to discontinue certain allowances like the Patient Care Allowance and Risk Allowance and to introduce new schemes in lieu thereof in consultation with the staff side. He referred to a specific recommendation of the 6th CPC regarding introduction of the Risk Insurance Scheme to replace the Risk Allowance. He suggested that until the new schemes are formulated by the Government, in consultation with the staff side, such existing allowances should be continued and their rates must be doubled in view of the general recommendation of the 6th CPC. Regarding the suggestion the Chairman to first discuss the issues related to pensions, Shri Purohit stated that the staff side has no objection to the same.Regarding the anomalies in the MACP, Shri Purohit suggested that a Joint Committee comprising of members or the official and staff side may be constituted to thoroughly examine the anomalies in the MACP. The recommendations of the Joint Committee can be placed before the NAC for a final decision in the matter. Referring to the various agenda items before the NAC, Shri Purohit also stated that there is a need to work a little faster. Shri Purohit also drew the attention of the Committee to the fact that CCA has been abolished by the 6th CPC by merging it with the Transport Allowance. He stated that prior to this, CCA was treated as ‘Pay’ for all purposes, particularly for calculation of overtime in respect of industrial workers. He was of the view that these kinds of unintentional problems emanating from the 6th CPC report should not be overlooked. In the last, he once again thanked the Chairman and stated that he was sure that all the anomalies would be resolved under the leadership of Secretary (P).



5. The Chairman stated that the government also recognise the need for faster resolution of all anomalies. The Chairman agreed to the suggestion for creation of a Joint Committee to look into the anomalies related to MACP. The Chairman while acknowledging the new structure and approach of the report of the 6th CPC, re-iterated the suggestion given by him in the first meeting of NAC that in case certain problems and difficulties are being faced due to insufficient understanding with regard to ecommendations of the report of the 6th CPC, the same may be brought to the notice of the Department of Personnel & Training so that these could be appropriately addressed and clarifications / explanations may be issued / uploaded on the website of the Department in order to obviate the need for future references on such matters. With respect to change in the definition of the agreed definition of anomaly,the Chairman stated that this aspect had already been recorded in the minutes of the first meeting of the NAC and if needed, the same can again be recorded for posterity that the staff side had taken up this issue in the NAC and it was agreed that it would be the endeavour of the Government to ensure that this change does not lead to any problems now or in the future. Regarding the new schemes to replace some of the allowances like Patient care Allowance and Risk Allowance, the Chairman assured the staff side that it would be the endeavour of the Government to ensure that new schemes are introduced only afler consulting the staff side. Regarding continuation of the risk allowance at old rates till the new Risk Insurance Scheme is finalised, the Chairman agreed that this matter will be examined.



6. Thereafter, the staff side raised the issue relating to the revision of the Fixed Medical Allowance (FMA). ‘The representatives of the Department of Pensions and Pensioners’ Welfare informed that a proposal to revise the FMA has been moved and presently the same is under consideration of the Committee of Secretaries. The Chairman stated the he will take up the matter with the cabinet secretary regarding an early decision on the matter.



7. Thereafter, the anomalies as per the agenda were taken up for discussion:



Item No 9: Anomaly in pension for government servants who retired/died in harness between 1 .1.2006 and 1.9.2008

Director,Department of Pension informed that during the first meeting of the NAC, under this item, the issue of non release of second instalment of arrears to the pensioners was raised. It was agreed that Department of Pension will take necessary steps to sort out the problem. Director, Department of Pension informed that in this connection, Secretary (P) took up the matter with the Secretary, Department of Financial Services and the Department of Pension took up the matter with the concerned authorities and now the problem has been resolved. Regarding the issue of release of life time arrears to the family pensioners, director,Department of Pension informed that suitable instructions in this connection already exist. The Chairman suggested that oncerned instructions should be reiterated to ensure speedy release of life time arrears to family pensioners. The item was treated as closed.



ltem Nos. 15. 16, 17 & 21:- Parity/ modified parity in pension/revised pension/familypension of all pre-1996 retirees with those who retired on or after 01 .01.2006.



The Official Side stated that the matter has been examined in detail on the basis of note given by the Staff Side. However, it has not been found feasible to agree to the demand of the Staff Side as revised pension has been fixed strictly in accordance with the rinciples enunciated by the 6th CPC for the same. Director, Department of Pension further informed that the matter was taken up with the Department of Expenditure and it has been decided that the modified parity adopted will stand as the same method was adopted after the implementation of the recommendations of the 5th CPC. However, even after a prolonged discussion in the matter, there was difference of opinion between the Official and the Staff Side. In view of this deadlock, the Chairman stated that the view point the staff side has been understood by the official side and that the official side will take a stand in the matter after taking into account the views expressed by the staff side. He then suggested moving on to the next agenda item.



ltem No.18: Anomaly in Pension of those retiring within the first 9 months of the year 2006..



Director, Department of Pension and Pensioners’ Welfare informed that suitable instructions have already been issued to allow the last pay drawn as the basis of pension calculation for those who retired on or after 1 .1,2006. As the anomaly has already been resolved, it was decided to treat the item as closed.



Item No.19: Revision of pension of those who retired during the period 1.1.2006 to 1.9.2008.



Director, Department of Pension and Pensioners’ Welfare informed that suitable instructions have already been issued to the effect that the benefit of full pension on retirement after 20 years of service has also been extended to employees who retired between 1.1.2006 to 1.9.2008. As the anomaly has already been resolved, it was decided to treat the item as closed.



ltem No.22:- Revision of pension of those who are receiving two pensions.



Director, Department of Pension and Pensioners’ Welfare informed that suitable instructions have already been issued vide O.M. dated 12th 0ctober 2009 to the effect that in respect of persons receiving two pensions, the floor ceiling of basic pension of Rs.3500/- per month shall apply individually. Therefore, it was decided to treat the item as closed.



ltem No.23:- Special provision for those who retired on or after 1.1.2006 but retained pre revised scale of pay.



Director, Department of Pension and Pensioners Welfare informed that although such a case has not come to the notice of that Department, however, the matter has been taken up with the Ministry of Finance and the same is under consideration. After detailed discussion, it was decided that the staff side will try to provide specific cases where problems are being faced due to retention of prerevised pay scale. It was also decided to look into the modalities adopted in such cases after the implementation of the recommendations of the 5th CPC.



ltem Nos.24.25 & 26:-Commutation of pension / additional pension



The staff side stated that the additional amount of pension commutation due to retrospective revision of pay of post 31” December 2005 retirees, should be done on the basis of the then existing (old) commutation table whereas the government has decided that this should be done on the basis of the New Commutation Table recommended by the 6thCPC. The staff side further stated that this dispensation is anomalous and the then existing table should only be used to calculate the amount of the additional commutation of pension becoming due on account of the revision of pay scales. The official side stated that the 6th CPC has recommended that if a pensioner opts for additional commutation of pension due to retrospective revision of pay, then the amount of additional pension commutation should be calculated on the basis of the New Commutation Table. It was further clarified by the official side that if the concerned pensioner did not opt for additional commutation, then the issue of using the new or old table would not come into being. Therefore, the alternative of not opting for the additional commutation is already available to the concerned pensioners if they feel that the revised commutation table is not favourable to them. Moreover, the official side also clarified that as per the scheme of things approved by the cabinet, the revised commutation table is to be used for calculating only the future commutation of pension and will not be applied to the past commutation. In respect of pensioner who has already commuted the pension, the revised commutation table shall be used only to compute the amount of pension that has become additionally commutable due to retrospective implementation of the revised pay scales. After detailed discussion on the matter, it was decided that as the new dispensation has been formulated strictly in accordance with the recommendations of the 6th CPC However, there was no consensus on the item and it was decided to move to the next agenda item.



ltem No 36; Income criteria in respect of parent and widowed/ divorced/ unmarried daughters.



The staff side demanded as everyone does not get Dearness Allowance (DA), the limit of Rs.35001- plus DA should be converted into a fixed amount for deciding the income criteria in respect of parent and widowed1 divorced1 unmarried daughters. After detailed discussion, it was agreed that the official side will re-examine the issue.



ltem No.48- Restoration of commutation of pension after 12 years instead of 15 years.



Director, Department of Pension and Pensioners’ Welfare informed that after examining the matter in detail, the 6th CPC has recommended that the existing 15 years period for restoration of pension should be maintained. However, the staff side was of the opinion that the commuted portion of pension is actually recovered by the Government within 12 years and therefore there is a need to have a relook in the matter. The staff side also referred to their calculations in this regard and requested the Official Side to reconsider the matter. After detailed discussion, it was decided that Official Side will re-examine the calculation given by the Staff Side and also the calculations used by the 6th CPC.



ltem Nos.54 to 59



The official Side informed that item nos. 54 to 59 relate to anomalies pertaining to Union Territory of Puducherry. It was further informed by the Official side that the administration of Puducherry has constituted an Anomaly Committee at the local level. Therefore, it was agreed that these items may be dropped from the agenda of the National Anomaly Committee. However, the staff side also stated that the Anomaly Committee constituted by the Administration of Puducherry should be on the pattern of the departmental anomaly committees and staff side should also be given due representation in the same.



ltem Nos.52 & 53



The Official Side informed that these two items relate to anomalies pertaining to the Union Territory of Andaman & Nicobar Islands and therefore suggested that the same may also be dropped from the agenda of NAC. The Staff Side agreed with the suggestion subject to the condition that some mechanism should be evolved at the local level to discuss these anomalies. The Official Side agreed to take up the matter with the Ministry of Home Affairs.


Aqenda Item Nos. 1 to 4 & 5(iii)- Anomaly in Pay Fixation in case of merger of various Pay Scales.



The Staff Side reiterated their demand that since the pre-revised Pay Scales of Rs.5000-8000/-, Rs.5500-9000/- were merged with the pay scale of Rs.6500-10500, the pay of the incumbents holding the pay scales of Rs.5000-8000/- and Rs.5500-9000 should have been fixed with effect from 1.1.2006 by applying the multiplying factor of 1.86 at Rs.6500/-. The Official Side informed that incumbents in the pre revised pay scale of Rs.6500-10500 have been granted Grade Pay of Rs.4600/- and hence now, there is no justification for this demand. The staff side, however, stated that it would be incorrect to presume that the anomaly has been resolved by granting grade pay of Rs. 4600 to employees in the pre-revised scale of Rs. 6500-10500. The staff side stated that pre-revised pay scales of Rs 5000-8000/- and Rs 5500- 90001- have been merged with the pre-revised pay scale of Rs 6500-10500/- and therefore, employees in these pay scales should be given the minimum of Rs 6500/- multiplied by 1.86 as basic pay in the pay band.



Agenda Item No.5- Revised Pay Rules



(i) Regarding finalisation of option to be given by the employees for the purpose of pay fixation,it was informed by the representatives of the Department of Expenditure that matter regarding delegation of powers to the administrative Ministries/ Departments to allow the revised option is under consideration.



(iv) Regarding anomaly in fixation of pay between direct recruits and promotees, the Staff Side reiterated that while applying Rule 8 of the CCS (RP) Rules, 2008, the pay of direct recruits and new entrants is fixed at a higher stage when compared to the existing employees who were promoted in the same grade.The Staff Side demanded that this anomaly should be rectified by incorporating a provision that in case after 1.1.2006, if a promotee’s pay is getting fixed at a stage lower than that of a direct recruit as given in Section 2 of the First Schedule of the CCS (RP) Rules, then the pay of the promotee should be fixed at the same stage as that of a direct recruit/ new entrant so that the existing employees’ pay is protected at par with the pay given to a new entrant. The Staff Side referred to the orders issued by) the Ministry of Railways for stepping up of the pay of a senior employee who is after promoted after 1.1.2006 and if his / her pay is fixed at a stage less than that of a junior employee who is recruited after 1.1.2006 and requested that Department of Expenditure should issue similar order / clarification in respect of employees of other Ministries/ Departments. The Official Side, however, was of the opinion that such orders should be issued only by the concerned Ministries/ Departments after seeking approval of the Department of Expenditure. Representatives of the Department of Expenditure also informed that the order issued by the Ministry of Railways is not applicable to all the cases and also that the same is applicable only in certain cases subject to fulfilment of certain conditions. Therefore, Representatives of the Department of Expenditure were of the view that a general order in this regard might create more confusion and hence it would be prudent to deal with the issue on case to case basis. In response to the suggestion of the staff side to re-examine the matter, representatives of the Department of Expenditure stated that the matter has already been examined and in cases, where the conditions of stepping up are met, there is no difficulty. However, in cases, where certain conditions are not met,it may not be possible to accommodate the demand of the staff side with the broad principles envisaged by the 6th CPC in this regard. The staff side than stated that as per the relevant provisions of the Fundamental Rules, anybody who is promoted, his / her pay cannot be fixed at a stage lower than the minimum of the pay scale in which he /she has been promoted. The staff side further stated that any person, who is appointed afresh to a post, is normally appointed at the minimum of that pay scale. Therefore,whatever pay has been prescribed for a direct recruitee, has to be treated as the minimum of that particular post in the concerned pay band. On this basis, the staff side stated that pay of a promotee should not be fixed lower than that of a direct recruitee in a particular pay band. The representatives of the Department of Expenditure stated that as a general preposition, this is not in line with the scheme of things envisaged and implemented as result of the recommendations of the 6th CPC. Therefore, agreeing with the demand of the staff side would mean departing from the general recommendations of the 6′h CPC and therefore additional information is required before taking any decision on this matter. In this regard the staff side contended that it is a question of relevant Fundamental Rules and not regarding the recommendations of the 6th CPC. The Staff Side insisted that provisions of the Fundamental Rules are statutory and therefore, they are above the recommendations of the 6th CPC and would prevail over them. Representatives of the Department of Expenditure stated that as per Rule 15 of the CCS (RP) Rules, 2008, the provisions of CCS (RP) Rules 2008 shall prevail in case there is any inconsistency between these rules and Fundamental Rules and therefore, the contention of the Staff Side regarding inconsistency with the Fundamental Rules and provisions regarding fixation of pay on promotion is not correct. After a prolonged discussion on the matter, it was decided that the Official Side will re-examine the matter.



(v) Regarding the anomaly relating to Rule 9 of the CCS (RP) Rules, 2008, concerning the date of next increment, the Staff Side reiterated their demand that employees whose date of next increment falls between 1st February to 1st June may be given an increment, as a onetime measure, in the pre revised pay scales on 1.1.2006 as has already been done in respect of employees whose next date of increment was 1.1.2006. The representatives of the Department of Expenditure stated that it is important to first examine the repercussions of granting an increment w.e.f 1. 1. 2006 in the pre revised pay scale because such a decision may eventually lead to certain other anomalies. After a long discussion, it was agreed that the Official Side would re- examine the matter and either suitable clarification in this regard will be issued before the next meeting of the National Anomaly Committee or if there is a need, the Department of Expenditure shall discuss the matter again with the representatives of the Staff Side.



(vii) The issue regarding temporary status casual labourers was discussed. The Staff Side stated that the temporary status casual labourers should be imparted the requisite training and granted grade pay of Rs.1800/- w.e.f. 1.1.2006. In this connection, the Official Side informed that the Department of Personnel & Training has already taken up the matter with all Ministries/ Departments and information has been called from all Ministries / Departments regarding the number of temporary status casual labourers and the proposals relating to three Ministries/ Departments have already been cleared. It was also informed that no proposal of any Ministry/ Department is pending with the Department of Personnel & Training. Therefore, the required action has already been initiated in this regard. Agenda Item No.47: Date of Annual Increment in EOL cases The Staff Side stated that after the implementation of the recommendations of the 6′h CPC, the date of annual increment in respect of all the employees has been fixed as 1st July every year. In this regard, the Staff Side drew attention towards a clarification given by the Department of Personnel & Training to the Ministry of Defence that in case of qualifying service of less than six months has been rendered between 1st January and 30′ June of every year on account of EOL, this will have the effect of postponing one’s increment to 1′ July of next year. The Staff Side stated that this is quite an anomalous situation and requested that this anomaly should be removed at the earliest. After a detailed discussion on this subject, it was agreed that if an employee has rendered minimum of six months of qualifying ’service during a particular year, he or she should be entitled to get the annual increment on 1st July. It was also agreed that Official Side would issue appropriate instructions in this regard at the earliest.



8. In the end, the chairman thanked the members of the staff side for their help and cooperation for a rigorous and fruitful discussion. The Chairman reemphasised that the staff side should proactively share with the official side the queries about the report of the 6th CPC so that explanatory notes / clarifications etc. could be prepared and uploaded on the website of the Department of Personnel and Training. The Chairman also requested the Staff Side to quickly forward the names of the representatives of the staff side to be nominated as members in the Joint Committee on MACP so that the order regarding constitution of the Joint Committee could be issued. The Chairman then suggested that the next meeting of the National Anomaly Committee could be convened in the last week of June 2010. The staff side agreed with this suggestion.



No OFFICIAL SIDE STAFF SIDE
1 Shri P.K. Sharma,
Addl. Member (Staff), Min. of Railways
1. Shri M.Raghavaiah,
Leader
2 Shri C.B. Paliwal,
Joint Secretary, DOPT
2. Shri U.M. Purohit,
Secretary
3 Smt. Madhulika P. Sukul,
JS (Pers), Dlo Expenditure
3. Shri Rakhal Das Gupta,
Member
4 Shri Ramesh Kumar,
Joint Secretary & AFA, Min. of Defence
4. Shri R.P.Bhatnagar,
Member
5 Shri D.M. Gautam,
Ex. Dir. (Pay Commission-I), Ministry of
Railways, (Railway Board)
5. Shri Guman Singh,
Member
6 Smt. Anjali Goyal
Ex. Director, Min. of Railways
6. Shri C.Srikumar,
Membe
7 Shri Hari Krishan,
Director, Minism of Railways
7. Shri S.K. Vyas,
Member
8 Shri Raj Kumar,
Director, Deptt. of Posts
8. Shri Ch.Sankara Rao,
Member
9 Shri Surender Kumar,
Asstt. Director General, Deptt. of Posts
9. Shri R.Srinivasan,
Member
10 Shri Raj Singh,
Director, Deptt. of Pensions
10. Shri K.K.N. Kutty,
Member
11 Smt. Tripti P. Gho’sh
Director, Dlo Pensions
1 1. Shri S.G. Mishra,
Member
12 Shri Alok Saxena,
Director (IC), Deptt. of Expenditure
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13 Smt. Simmi Nakra,
Director (P&A), DOPT
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14 Smt. Rita Mathur,
Director (Pay), DOPT
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15 Shri Dinesh Kapila,
Deputy Secretary (JCA), DOPT and
Member Secretary,
National Anomaly Committee
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16 Shri Ravi Kant,
Section Officer (SR), D/o Posts
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17 comments

Correction to the above- first line

Pl read " Dear pre 1996/ pre 2006 pensioners" at the start

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Date 6/5/2010

Dear Sir,

Please clarify the following points immediately
Aqenda Item Nos. 1 to 4 & 5(iii)- Anomaly in Pay Fixation in case of merger of various Pay Scales.

Since the pre-revised Pay Scales of Rs.5000-8000/-, Rs.5500-9000/- were merged with the pay scale of Rs.6500-10500, the pay of the incumbents holding the pay scales of Rs.5000-8000/- and Rs.5500-9000 should have been fixed with effect from 1.1.2006 by applying the multiplying factor of 1.86 at Rs.6500/-.

1. Kind attention to be given CEA you have declared only tuition fee, lib. fee, lab fee,activity fee, computer fees but what about Exam fees and term fees which are not reimbursed by the office which is not shown in your DOPT circular orders hence office is objecting and last year they have not reimbursed the misc. fee, gratuity fee, PTA Fund , exam fee and term fees since we have school receipts alsoplease clarify.

2. If school is not taking any sports fees but students are paying fees outside for admission for Cricket or other sports activity the receipt for the same can be submitted to office and it will get reimbursed please clarify.
Also, school Project work like Science Project, Hindi Project during Sept. for which parents are spending money can be reimbursed or not? Please clarify.

Thanking you

Yours faithfully

tara


Since I was in the prerevised scale of Rs.5500-9000 and after ACP I was given 6500-10500 in August 2006. Now incumbents in the pre revised pay scale of Rs.6500-10500 have been granted Grade Pay of Rs.4600/- but not granted Family Planning increment was in prerevised scale 400/- which was not granted after grade pay changes i.e. Rs.4200/- to Rs.4600/-by granting grade pay of Rs. 4600 to employees in the pre-revised scale of Rs. 6500-10500 the FP increment should be granted as Rs.450/-.

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I want to bring your attention to an anamoly where 6th cpc recomended gp 5400 after completion of 4 years in gp 4800 for some categories not for all this is an anamoly because other categories will have to wait for 10years to get gp 5400 who are getting gp 4800. Govt should look in this matter.

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No progress has been made from the last to this meeting of the NAC. For example the it was decided in case of parity in fixation of pay of direct recruits and promotee that the matter will be examine by Department of Expenditure in the minutes of the 1st NAC meeting. Now in the 2nd meeting's minutes the same thing is written that the official side will further examine the issue. They will keep on examining the matter till the next pay commission becomes due and say that now the new pay commission will decide on this. I think the next pay commission will come and they will keep on deliberating only and make fool of all govt. employees that they are fighting for the their cause. Yeh sab official aur staff side ki milibhagat hai. Kuch nahi hone wala.

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Dear Sir,

Please guide about Incentive increments to the sportsmen/women for outstanding sports achievemens can be granted one increment or incentive for ICAR employees for participating in the Zonal sports meet also.

Thanking you,
yours faithfully

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Sir,
Those whose date of birth is on 1st July have to retire on 30th June it self without increment due on 1st July even after working for full 12 months period. I feel this is an anomaly.Secondly in such cases the factor applied for commutation of pension is of 61 years of age and not 60. Actually the age by next birthday in above case is 60 years and not 61 yrs. I feel this is also an anomaly. The staff side of JCM should bring to this to the notice of the Govt. in the best interest of several employees whose date of birth is 1st of the month and especially of those whose date of birth is 1st JUly.

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I don't think that staff side representatives will help the poor employees. They are only there for time passing and enjoying the breakfast the higher officer of Govt. of India. In the case of pay of promotee, which should be at par of pay of direct recruited after 01.01.2006, if the dicision will not be in favour of promotees, I WILL COMMIT SUICIDE
and it is not a jock i m serios



Sumit kumar saugr

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There is great injustice with LDC/UDCs in MES. UDCs who have been granted 2nd ACP upto 1.8.2009 in the pay scale of Rs. 5000-8000 have been granted Grade pay of Rs. 4200/- and others Rs. 2800/-. Same cateogory two grade pays. One is drawing Grade Pay of Rs. 4200/- on receipt of 2nd ACP and another is Rs. 2800/- which is disparity and anomaly committee should also check it. Grade Pay of Rs. 2400/- should be given to LDC and Rs. 4200/- to UDC

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My pay was 5150/- as on 1/1/2006 in the pay scale of 5000-150-8000. kindly give me the grade pay & pay band for fixation.My fixation has been done on 5150*1.86+4200 on 1.1.2006.
I am working in All India Radio & I have no promotion till retirement in year 2022 nor macp in my organisation in my cader.I was appointed in year 2004.
kindly tell me pls.pls.pls.the latest detail regarding pay band/grade pay in nov/dec 2009 OM by MOF.In All India Radio Ldc's & Udc's they are giving 4600/- GP with pay scale of 5000/- & 5500/- pay scale from 1.1.06.My entry level scale is 5000/- & I am a Tranmission Executive in all india radio but I am not giving such GP.
If anybody Know somthing regarding above give me the reply pls.,I am still waiting sir.

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I am working in ut of Puducherry as a pharmacist and there is a post of chief pharmacist which is a promotional post,there are only four posts are there and the other hand there is only one post of superintendent of pharmacy which is a gazetted one and having the same pay scale of chief pharmacist and functional one.The performed persons are didnot do any thing about their pay scalefor some personal reason.The 5th cpc was recommended the pay scale Rs6500 for chief pharmacist,and Ist ACP we got Rs6500/-and our govt make anomaly of IIed ACP.Now we are at 6500and GPof4200/and our govt is not ready to give the GP of 4600/ is it right or wrong.Our entry scale is Rs4500/and there is no any intermediate post between entry and chief pharmacist.

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VASUKI-

I am UDC in the GP Rs.2400/- in a sub-ordinate office under Ministry of Agriculture. For me the next hierarchy post is Assistant Office Superintendent in the Grade Pay of Rs.4200/-. But for me getting promotion is very difficult as there are other persons in front of me. Only solace left is MACP after 20 years. My predecessors have got Rs.4200/- GP as they were given ACP prior to 1.9.2008. My 2nd ACP is due in next year i.e. 2011 and I am goint to get a GP of Rs.2800/-as that is the GP in hierarchy. This is a serious anamoloy and I wish that Government look into it seriously as a grate number of UDC like me will also face similar problem in near future. The Anamolies Committee and Government of India should look sympathetically into the matter and give justice to all such employees.

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As per old ACP scheme an employee with entry scale of Rs 5000-8000 was eligible to get the scale of Rs 6500-10500 after 12 years.After 8 years more he was drawing a basic pay of Rs 8100[6500+(200x8)]. It means that employee was eligible for type IV accommodation after 20 years total service because type IV accn was entitled after a basic pay of Rs 8000/-. In new MACP scheme the the type IV accn is entitled to the employee having grade pay of Rs 5400, which will only be available to the same employee after 30 years! The JCM members should take up the point in NAC meeting and demand for scrapping up of the grade pay of 4600/-. The MACP structure should start from 4200,after 10 yrs 4800, after 20 yrs 5400 and after 30 yrs it should be 6600. This will facilitate these employees to retain their entitlement for type IV accn and will solve the problem of degradation of middle level employees.

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I am Steno Gr.III in a field office with pre-revised pay scale of 4000-6000( now 5200 and GP-2400). I completed 10 years of service on 31.7.2007. The order of MACP w.e.f. 1.9.2008 issued today with pay band-2 and GP 2800. I opted for upgradation w.e.f. date of my promotion. We have two cadres in my deptt. One is police and we are ministerial. In ministerial cadre there is no GP of 2800. This GP is getting by only ASI in my deptt. Before MACP the Stenos working in pay scale of 4000-600 used to get 5500-8000 on ACP. Now they are enjoying more facilities like Accommodation, Travelling. But after 12 years of service I am getting lower facilities. Any suggestion from anybody?

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Dear sir,

what is the decision regarding granting of one time increment to all those whose date of increment falls between feb and june. When is the next anomaly committee meeting?

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DEAR SIR
TWO IMPORTANT POINTS TO CLARIFIED
1;MACP UPGRADATIONS TO BE GIVEN AS PER HIREARCHY OF INDIVIDUALS PROMOTION PAY BAND AND GP IN ORD. FYS. NGOS/GOS GP B ARE HAVING GP 4600 PB 2 AFTER THEY R PROMOTED TO PB3 GP 5400 AS AWM OR ASSTT. DIR BUT IN MACP THEY FIX IN PB2 4800 GP AFTER AGAIN PB2 5400 THIS IS NOT JUSTIFIED HE SHOULD BE GIVEN PB3 5400GP AND PB3 6600 GP
ENTITLEMENT OF TA/DA SHOULD BE AS PER PAY DRAWING GP SOME DEPTT. NOT ALLOWING

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AFHQ is an attached office of Ministry of Defence which is created for manning civilian posts in various establishments of three Service Headquarters(Army, Navy and Airforce). The overall cadre controlling is vested with an offer of the level of Joint Secretary who is designated as Chief Administrative Officer. Despite the strict nature of duties, AFHQ employees are not getting their due treatment.

Even after almost a year the up-gradation of pay scale of Assistants and PAs to the pre-revised pay structure of 7450-11500 with a grade pay of Rs.4600/- w.e.f 1-01-2006 granted vide Min of Fin OM dated 16 Nov 2009 has not been implemented and the arrears paid so far. As on date, the pay fixation including stepping-up of pay in respect of seniors wherever necessary has been done in accordance with the clarifications issued vide M o F D/o Expenditure IC UO No. 10/1/2010-IC dated 27-1-2010 and arrears paid in all other departments except in AFHQ. In AFHQ pay fixation has been done but the case for stepping up of pay in respect of seniors is pending with PCDA with baseless objections.
AFHQ is in-fact an orphan organization. Both the Pay & Accounts Office as well as Cadre Controlling Authority are outsiders. PCDA is the PAO and a JS of Min of Def, now JS(Trg), is being given an addl charge as Cadre Controlling Authority of AFHQ.These authorities never take interest in the welfare of staff as they are outsiders.

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Sixth Pay Commission and has also not addressed many issues properly particularly in the case of lower level employees which has resulted in emergence of fresh anomalies.

The difference is extremely high between Pay Band-3 and Pay Band-4. There should have been an intermediate Pay Band at the range of 28000-60000 which has been avoided for giving maximum benefit to senior level . At lower level the difference between two pay bands is only nominal. There are a number of Grade Pays at lower level with a difference of mere 100 rupees.
Though the pay commission in its recommendation has specifically stated in the case of merging of pay scales that ‘where ever merging of two or more scales has been taken place the minimum of the highest scale has been considered’, while framing the Revised Pay Rules 2008, department of expenditure has deliberately sidelined the main concept of merging of scales and inserted common fixation formula for all. Secondly the very purpose of up-gradation of pre-revised scales has also not been taken in the right sense while framing the Revised Pay Rules 2008.

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