5th National Anomaly Committee meeting minutes published by DoPT

Department of Personnel and Training has issued official minutes of 5th National Anomaly Committee meeting held on 17.7.2012.

DOPT published the detailed official minutes of the 4th National Anomaly Committee Meeting, which was held on 5th January, 2012 today on its official website and also the summary record of discussions of the meeting held on 27th July, 2012 with the Staff Side on the issues relating to Modified Assured Career Progression Scheme (MACPS). The detailed report of the discussions and decisions on agenda items with the Staff Side members. The minutes of the meeting was given in four parts as follows...

Annexure - I : Summary Record of Discussions of the 4th meeting of the National Anomaly Committee held on 5.1.2012 

Annexure - II : List of Participants in the Fourth Meeting of the National Anomaly Committee held on 17th July,  2012.

Annexure - III : Summary Record of discussions of the meeting held on 27th July, 2012 with the Staff Side on the issues relating to Modified Assured Career Progression Scheme (MACPS). 

Annexure - VI : List of participants in the meeting on MACP held on 27th July, 2012.

We have reproduced the minutes of 5th NAC meeting and given below for your reference…

Minutes of the meeting of the National Anomaly Committee held on 17th July, 2012

1. The 4th meeting of the National Anomaly Committee (NAC), which was held on 5.1.2012 at 2.30 PM at New Delhi was adjourned. Record Note of that meeting is at ANNEXURE I. The NAC next met subsequently on 17th July, 2012 at 3.00 PM in Conference Room No 119, North Block and was chaired by Shri P.K.Misra, Secretary DOP&T. A list of members who attended this meeting is at ANNEXURE II.

2. The Chairman welcomed all members of Official and Staff Side of the National Anomaly Committee. He mentioned that the recommendations of the 6th Central Pay Commission were extensively discussed with the Staff Side representatives and the Government had also made improvements while implementing them. He referred to further discussions on pay related matters in this forum and Government agreement on certain issues raised by the Staff Side besides issuing of clarificatory instructions. Since some of the issues raised by the Staff Side had earlier been discussed with the Staff Side during the implementation of 6th CPC recommendations and were amicably resolved, he suggested that there has to be finality in regard to the pay scales implemented by the Government on the basis of recommendations of the 6th CPC. He stated that settled issues which were resolved in consultation with the Staff Side earlier need not be reopened.

3. The Chairman also stated that after the last meeting of the National Anomaly Committee held on 5th January, 2012, Government has issued orders relating to grant of one increment in pre-revised pay scale on 1.1.2006 as a onetime measure in respect of all those employees whose next increment fell between 1.2.2006 to 30.6.2006 which was a significant resolution of the issue raised by the Staff Side. Further, Temporary Status Casual Labourers have since been granted wages on the basis of the Grade Pay of Rs.1800 at Pay Band I  with effect from 1.1.2006 vide DoPT OM dt. 23.01.2012, an issue raised by the Staff Side in this committee. In regard to doubling of Risk Allowance, the Chairman informed that the Government was in the process of seeking Cabinet's approval to the proposal as requested by the Staff Side.

4. The Chairman concluded by expressing that with the spirit of cooperation and mutual understanding as evinced in the earlier meetings the issues would get resolved through the process of constructive dialogue and discussion.

5. The Leader, Staff Side, while thanking the Chairman raised the issue of irregular functioning of the JCM in various Departments. He pointed out that Departmental Councils were either not functioning or have not been constituted. He also suggested that to resolve problems in MACP Scheme an honest comparison of erstwhile ACP Scheme with MACPS may be made for analysing if there is any improvement.

6. The Secretary, Staff Side, in his opening remarks stated that though the JCM Scheme has been effective in resolving disputes between the Central Government employees and the Government of India, of late, the scheme is not being administered properly causing discontentment among the staff of the Central Government . He requested the Chairman that it should be ensured that scheme functions effectively both at the National and Departmental levels in letter and spirit. He also pointed out that in many departments, Departmental Council has not yet been formed, and where Departmental Councils are in existence they are not functioning properly. He also requested that a separate discussion should be held on MACP Scheme related matters, and the date for the same should be fixed very shortly.

7. The members of the Staff Side also raised the issue of slow progress in resolution of the issues and in this context demanded that greater delegation of decision making powers with the Ministries. The Official Side responded by stating that on issues related to common categories of personnel such a delegation of authority can lead to disturbance in vertical and horizontal relativities in the pay structure across several Departments/Ministries. Consequently, this shall give rise to a large number of anomalies which may be difficult to resolve. The Chairman assured that all the departments will be appropriately advised to revive the Departmental Councils functioning as per the JCM scheme. The Chairman also said that separate meeting for discussing the issues relating to MACP Scheme would be held under Joint Secretary (E), DoPT at the earliest in consultation with the Staff Side.

8. The Agenda Items were subsequently taken up for discussion as follows:-

8.1  Items No.1, 2, 3 &4 — Fixation of pay in revised pay scale
On this item the Staff Side reiterated their demand that the pay of the incumbents holding the merged pay scales of Rs.5000-8000/- and Rs.5500-9000 should have been fixed by applying the multiplying factor of 1.86 at Rs.6500/-with effect from 1.1.2006 implying thereby that the commencement point of the Pay Band  2  should be at Rs.12090/- based on 6500 X 1.86 = 12090 instead of Rs.9300/- computed by multiplying Rs.5000/- by 1.86.
The Official Side maintained that the fitment tables are as much a part of the 6th CPC's report as in the narrative portion and hence the recommendations of the 6th CPC have to be read in conjunction with the fitment tables. The Official Side informed that incumbents in the pre-revised pay scale of Rs.6500-to10500 have been granted Grade Pay of Rs.4600/- and therefore there was no justification for this demand. Since there was no consensus on this issue, it was decided that on this issue a disagreement may have to be recorded.

8 .2  Special Allowance and Qualification Pay
The Official Side referred to earlier discussions on this issue in the meeting held on 5th January,  2012. It stated that since special qualifying pay was revised from 1.9.2008 while the pay scales were revised from 1.1.2006. in cases where a senior employee is promoted during the period 1.1.2006 to 31.8.2008 gets the benefit of pre-revised qualification pay while junior employees promoted on or after 1.9.2008 have been granted the benefit of revised qualification pay and therefore the pay of the seniors getting fixed at lower stage as compared to the juniors may result in an anomaly. The Chairman directed that this anomaly needs to be resolved within one month.

8 . 3  Item No.5 (ii), (iv) (with 32 & 33), (v)(vii) - Rule 8 of the Revised Pay Rules Fixation of pay on promotion
Staff Side stated that anomaly in this case is basically due to the fact that it is for the first time that CPC has recommended specific entry level pay for Direct Recruits (DRs). This has resulted in employees who were appointed in service prior to the DRs and got promoted earlier getting less pay as compared to their counterparts recruited directly and who joined after 1.1.2006. The Official Side stated that in such cases stepping up of pay is permissible subject to certain conditions. However, the Staff Side insisted that on promotion, the pay of all the promotees should be fixed at the entry level of pay of that post as in the case of the direct recruits, wherever there is a provision of direct recruitment in the RRs.
The Staff Side requested that in cases where no direct recruitment actually took place even though RRs provided for the same or when a DR did not join, stepping up of pay should be considered.
This suggestion of the Staff Side was considered by the Official Side, who responded by stating that wherever there is a provision of direct recruitment in the Recruitment Rules, pay on promotion would be fixed at the prescribed minimum of the Entry Pay as provided for the Direct Entrants in the Revised Pay Rules, irrespective of the fact whether direct recruitment has actually taken place or not. The Staff Side agreed to close this issue thereafter.

8.4 Item No 11 Granting revised allowances with effect from 1.1.2006 The Staff Side demanded that all the allowances should be doubled w.e.f. 1.1.2006 instead of 1.9.2008. It was pointed out that allowances were revised prospectively at the time of implementation of the recommendations of the 5th CPC also. The 6th CPC has also recommended that all allowances should be revised prospectively. Therefore, there is no anomaly as such. After discussions, the Staff Side agreed to drop this item.

8.5 Item No.12 & 13 — Transport Allowance
The Official Side stated that the issue of Transport Allowance was discussed with the Staff Side after the submission of the 6th CPC report and the rates of Transport Allowance were fixed as per these consultations. The Staff Side was, therefore called upon to honour such a commitment. The Staff Side explained that in those discussions, the issue of CCA being taken into account for payment of OTA to an employee was also raised. As CCA has since been subsumed in Transport Allowance which is not taken into account for payment of OTA, employees in respect of OTA are consequently at a loss.
It was decided that the issue of changes in the rates of Transport Allowance will stand closed and the issue of subsuming CCA under Transport Allowance and its repercussions on the payment of OTA will be examined separately.
The Staff Side also raised the issue of doubling of Daily Allowance on tour in those cases where it is not practical to get bills/receipts for fares charged by the Autorikshaws or bills for tea/snacks/meals from dhabas/ small restaurants/ roadside eateries etc. The Official Side stated that as per the present dispensation, employees have the option to claim for the pre- revised rates of D.A. without submitting any bills / receipts. The Staff Side however contended that the pre-revised rates of D.A. are too meagre to take care of the boarding and lodging requirements and should be doubled.
It was decided that the matter will be examined separately although this cannot be treated as an anomaly. The issue of rate of Transport allowance to employees staying in Gurgaon, Ghaziabad and Faridabad (NCR) was also raised by the Staff Side. The Official Side agreed to re-visit this matter separately.

8.6 Item No.14 — Revision of existing allowances which are to be withdrawn and replaced by new schemes
The Official Side informed that the matter pertaining to doubling of rates of Risk Allowance and Patient Care Allowance is under process for seeking Cabinet approval.

8.7 Item No.16 &17 — Parity in Pension The Chairman stated that since the matter is sub-judice, any further action on this issue will be dependent on the directions of the Court of Law. There seemed to be no point in keeping these items in the National Anomaly Committee. This was agreed to.

Item No.25, 25 &26 — Commutation of Pension The Staff Side stated that the additional amount of pension commutation due to retrospective revision of pay of post 31st December 2005 retirees, should be done on the basis of the then existing (old) commutation tables and not on the basis of the New Commutation Table recommended by the 6th CPC. This flows from the fact that the New Commutation-Table came into force on or after 1.9.2008 and, therefore cannot be made applicable to determine additional commutation value. As a matter of fact, the new Table was not in existence on the date of retirement of such pensioners.
The Official Side stated that the revised commutation table is used for calculating only the future commutation of pension and is not applicable to the past commutation. In respect of a pensioner who has already commuted the pension, the revised commutation table is used only to compute the amount of pension that has become additionally commutable due to retrospective implementation of the revised pay scales. Further, if the concerned pensioners feel that the revised commutation table is not favourable to them they have the option of not opting for the additional commutation. The Chairman pointed out that the suggestion of Staff Side to apply old commutation table in case of those retirees who retired between 1.1.2006 and 31.08.2008 could result in further anomaly for post 1.9.2008 retirees as in their case only revised commutation table is applicable. The Chairman directed Department of Pensions to work out tables using existing (old) commutation table and the revised commutation table for the employees who retired prior to and after 1.9.2038 so as to explore the possibility of a fair resolution for both the pre- 1.9.2008 as well as the post 1.9.2008 retirees.

8.9  Item No.29 &30 — Revision of Base Index for D.A.
The Staff Side stated that a 12-monthly average index of 536 (AICPI-1W) 1982 series, corresponds to 74.97% increase over the base index of 306.33 as prescribed by V CPC. Since 74% increase in D.A. has only been merged in emoluments (Pay Band), this increase corresponds to  12  monthly average index of 533.02 of cost of living Index (1982=100) series. The base index for the 6th CPC Pay Scale should therefore be 533.02 of 1992 index i.e. 115.12 in (2001=100) series for the computation of D.A. in pay scale of VI CPC, and not 115.76.
Deptt. of Expenditure stated that Dearness Allowance is calculated based on the  12 monthly average of AICPI for Industrial Workers and that the twelve monthly average as on 1.1.96 was 306.33 and on 1.1.2006 it was 536. Government converted the average of 536 which is based on the 1982 series by dividing it by 4.63, which was the linking factor for conversion of the base from 536 to 115.76. The Sixth CPC also recommended the usage of the base of 536. The Official Side pointed out that although the Sixth CPC had in its Report mentioned a base of 116 but the Government worked it out as 115.76 which has resulted in relatively higher increase in Dearness Allowance.
The Chairman directed that since this issue entailed pure mathematical calculations, the Department of Expenditure will share the calculations with the Staff Side and if they still had any further issues, then those could be examined.

8.10 Item No.36 — Income criteria in respect of parents and widowed/divorced/unmarried daughters
In regard to the demand of the Staff Side to convert income criteria in respect of parents and widowed/divorced/unmarried daughters from the limit of Rs.35oo/- plus DA to a fixed amount, it was pointed out that as per the present criterion as recommended by the 6th CPC, periodical enhancements in the rate of DR, would result in more and more families becoming eligible for family pension. The Staff Side agreed to drop this item.

8.11 Item No.38 & 39 — Anomaly in fixing grade pay
The Staff Side stated that the general recommendation of the 6th CPC was that the grade pay will be 40% of the maximum of the pre-revised pay scales. However, at the time of implementation of the recommendations of the 6th CPC, Government has given more than 40% as grade pay to certain categories of the employees in PB-3 and PB-4. Therefore, it was an anomaly and demanded that everyone should be given grade pay of at least 50% of the maximum of the pre-revised pay scales
The Official Side stated that the demand of the Staff Side to give grade pay of at least 50% of the maximum of the pre-revised pay scales is against the general recommendations of the 6th CPC . In respect of certain employees, the 6th CPC has itself recommended a grade pay in excess of 40% of the maximum of the pre-revised pay scales. Also, in Para  2.2.21 the report of the 6th CPC, it has been clearly stated that in some cases, the amount of the grade pay has been adjusted so as to maintain a clear differential between successive grades pay. The government implemented the recommendations of the 6th CPC with certain conscious modifications in the Grade Pay in some cases. Moreover, the erstwhile Group D employees have also been granted grade pay in excess of  40% of the maximum of the pre-revised pay scales. It was pointed out to the Staff Side that even post 5th CPC, uniform benefit did not accrue to all employees. It was felt that this is a demand and not an anomaly and such an issue cannot be reopened at this stage.

8.12 Item No.41 — Fixation of pay on promotion to a post carrying the same grade pay
The Staff Side demanded that with regard to fixation of pay on promotion to a post carrying the same grade pay, one increment should be granted. The Official Side was inclined to agree to such a suggestion on the condition that such a promotion shall also be reckoned with for the purpose of MACP. It was decided that in cases where promotion is to a post carrying the same grade pay, benefit of one increment would be considered separately for each category of employee subject to the condition that the promotional post had higher duties and responsibilities under FR 22(1)(a)(1) and an increment was permitted in such cases even prior to 6th CPC as the two posts carrying the same pay scale was not merged due to functional considerations. The issue of treating it as promotion for the purpose of MACPS will be examined separately.

8.13  Item No.42 — MACPS
It was decided that since the issues involved in MACP Scheme are complex, another round of consultation through a meeting with the Staff Side under Joint Secretary (E), DoPT may be held soon. The meeting was held on 27th July,  2012 and the record note of that meeting is at ANNEXURE III.

8.14 Item No.44 — Anomaly in the pay scale/pay band and grade pay of Library Information Assistants
It was informed that the issues raised in the representation received from the Staff Side would be considered after obtaining comments from the Ministry of Culture, as the Nodal Ministry on the subject and Ministry of Human Resource Development.

Item No.45 — Anomaly in pension of those in receipt of stagnation increments in pre-revised pay scale
The Staff Side that that persons who were in service as on 1.1.2006 and drawing the maximum of prerevised pay scale plus stagnation increments and had chosen to be fixed in his Revised Pay Band + Grade Pay (which is 40% of the maximum prerevised Pay Scale) have not been given 40% of stagnation increment in their fixation. In their view such persons on retirement after 1.1.2006 have thus been deprived of a stagnation increment in the pre-revised.

8.15 scale and accordingly their Grade Pay should be increased by 4o% of their stagnation increment in the pre-revised scale.
The issue relating to availability of re-option subsequent to the issue of Government orders dated 19.03.2012 by the Deptt of Expenditure, relating to grant of one increment in pre-revised pay scale on 1.1.2006 as a onetime measure in respect of all those employees whose next increment fell between 1.2.2006 to 30.6.2006 and then re-fixing them in the revised pay band so as to grant next increment on 1.7.2006, was also raised by the Staff Side.
The Official Side stated that the fitment tables were framed after taking into account the stagnation increments. Nevertheless, it was decided that suitable clarifications on stagnation increment as well as on the issue of options to be granted will be examined.

8. 16 Item No.46 and 49 — Disparity in pay scales of Officers in Stenographers Cadre in Secretariat and Field offices
This is an issue relating to disparity in pay scales of Stenographers Cadre in Secretariat vis a vis Field offices. The Staff Side contended that there is disparity in pay scales of officers in Stenographers cadre in Secretariat and Field formations. They stated that since parity between Secretariat and Field offices has been approved, the PS in field offices (Prerevised Pay Scale of Rs.6500-10500) may be upgraded to prerevised Pay Scale of Rs.7450-11000 i.e.PB-2 with grade pay of Rs. 4600/- and Sr. PS of field offices may be granted PB — 3 with Grade pay of Rs.5400/- on completion of 4 years of service.
The Official Side stated that in para 3.1.14 of the 6th CPC's Report a specific recommendation for PS/Sr. PS in non-secretariat organizations has been made and the same has been accepted and notified by the Government. Further, the 6th Pay Commission while advocating grant of parity between similarly placed personnel employed in field offices and the Secretariat has extended this parity only up to the grade of Assistant (pre-revised Pay Scale of Rs.6500-10500) (vide para 3.1.3 of their report). It was also brought out that posts that were existing in the pre-revised pay scale of Rs.6500-10500 before 1.1.2006, including that of PS in field offices, have been upgraded to the pre- revised scale of Rs.7450-11500 w.e.f. 1.1.2006 vide Department of Expenditure's O.M. 1/1//2008/IC dated 13.11.2009. Therefore, suitable action has already been taken in the matter. The Staff Side however, felt that the recommendations of the Pay Commission have not been implemented in certain cases, particularly in Railways and Defence field units.
It was decided that if there are any such instances pertaining to Office staff outside the Secretariat where Government orders for grant of PB 2 with GP of 5400 has not been given, these cases can be brought to the notice of Government for resolution as parity in terms of pay structure, between the field and Secretariat offices would continue to be maintained, as per recommendations of 6th CPC.

8.17  Item No.48 — 15 year period fixed for restoration of commuted portion of pension arbitrary and unjustified
The Staff Side stated that the commuted portion of pension is actually recovered by the Government within  12  years and therefore Government is over-recovering from the pensioners and thus there is a need to have a relook in the matter. The Staff Side also referred to their calculations in this regard and requested the Official Side to reconsider the matter.
Department of Pension and Pensioners' Welfare stated that the Hon'ble Supreme Court in 1996 had ruled in favour of restoration after 15 years in WP No 3958-61. The 6th CPC had also recommended that the existing 15 years period for restoration of pension should be maintained.
The Staff Side demanded that a copy of the Judgment of the Supreme Court may be provided to them. It was decided that the copy of the judgment shall be provided to the Staff Side.

8.18  Item No.50 — Anomalies in the pay scales of Official Language Staff 
The Staff Side pointed out the disparity between pay scales of Official Language Staff / Rajbhasa Sahayak / Hindi Asstt. as issued vide Ministry of Finance, Department of Expenditure's letter No.1/1/2008 — IC dated 24.11.2008 and the Official Language Staff / Rajbhasa Sahayak / Hindi Asstt working in Indian Railways. The Staff Side mentioned that the parity in the pay scales in field and HQ is still to be granted in many field offices of Ministry of Railways. The Official Side pointed out that in terms of Department of Expenditure Orders issued in November, 2008 parity in the pay scales of OL posts in field offices and CSOLS has been given and the matter has already been clarified by them on various references received in this regard from several other administrative Ministries / Departments.
It was decided that Ministry of Railways may separately examine the issue with regard to field formations under its jurisdiction in consultation with the Department of Expenditure.
The Staff Side raised the issue of additional items sent by them for consideration by the National Anomaly Committee. It was decided that these will be examined for taking up in the National Anomaly Committee. The Chairman thanked the participants for very stimulating and fruitful discussions and assured that the Committee will meet after 3 or 4 months.

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39 comments

THE GOVERNMENT HAS ADOPTED A TOTALLY INDIFFERENT ATTITUDE TOWARDS THE EMPLOYEES. IT IS HIGH TIME THAT MASS PROTESTS MUST BE ORGANISED.

ACP OPTION AS PER HIERARCHY MUST BE MADE.
TRANSPORT ALLOWANCE AND TA/DA ON TOURS MUST BE INCREASED TO MEET THE EXPENSES.

THE STAFF SIDE LEADERS MAY PROVIDE MORE THRUST TO THE DEMANDS.

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please fixed the date of 6th National Anomaly Committee meeting at the earliest and the option to choose either ACP or MACP whichever beneficial for the employees should be granted in this meeting as decided in the previous NAC meeting.

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MACP on promotional hierarchy should be granted in the next NAC meeting because it was agreed too by the official side in the last MACP meeting held on July 27, 2012.

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As per the minutes of the meeting only those grades which are not merged in the same grade pay would be receiving an additional increment. Those who were promoted from Head Clerk to Office Superintendents, won't be getting an increment, since these two grades have been merged on functionality basis.

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MACP SCHEME SHOULD BE MADE EFFECTIVE FROM 1.1.2006 IN RESPECT OF THOSE WHO RETIRED /DIED DURING THE PERIOD FROM 1.1.2006 AND 31.8.2008 AS BECAUSE THE BENEFIT OF MACP HAS BEEN DENIED TO THEM.
IN MACP JOINT COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON 27.7.2012, THE OFFICIAL SIDE ALSO AGREED TO CONSIDER APPLICATION OF THE NEW MACP WITH EFFECT FROM 1.1.2006 FOR THOSE WHO RETIRED/DIED BETWEEN 1.1.2006 AND 31.8.2008. SO, OFFICIAL SIDE SHOULD CONSIDER THE MATTER SYMPATHETICALLY FOR RETIRED EMPLOYEES ALSO AS THERE ARE SOME EMPLOYEES WHO NEITHER GOT THE BENEFIT OF ACPS NOR MACP.

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Promotion hierarchy in MACP is beneficial for all the central govt. departments and official side is also agree with this on last NAC meeting. The Staff side leaders may provide more thrust to the demands.

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A number of anomalies arise in the 6th cpc report but none is there to see the logical solution. Employees getting higher pay scales at the time of implementation of this report are deprived of getting higher pay etc. Particularly in case of Gr."B" officers it is an insult to this category. They have been thrown to pay scale 5000-8000. It is shameful. Staff getting gp 5400 is getting more pay in terms of Basic+TPA+Bonus but if the category is termed as Gazetted they will will loose all benifits. Any union or federation or association did not bothered to that.

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There has been great injustice towards group "B" officers in the Railways. Particularly in case of officers selected in the Misc. cadre. They have to remain in the grade Pay 4800 till their retirement. Even staff junior to them may get Rs.5400 GP and also all the prescribed benefits like higher Pay, Increment, TPA, PLB etc but if one has been designated as Gazetted then all his benefits are withdrawn. Why? Can any union, any federation, any association have ever objected on this issue at any level. Answer is never. It is shameful. If GP 5400 is given to all Gr."B" gazetted cadre it may be some releif to them. CAN any one persue it?
G D Joshi/Railway Gr."B" Officer since Feb-2007

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Ramachanran K.K mod

This is in connection with the demand for the implementation of MACP with effect from 1/1/2006. There are a large number of retired employees like me who did not get any benefit either from ACP or from MACP as the MACP was brought into force only from 1/9/2008.This is nothing but depriving some benefits to the elders. After having put in about 35 years of unblemished service in Railways I retired in 2007. As per the present pay structure I was given only two promotions.It is unfortunate that the just and genuine demand of the staff side to implement the MACP wef 1/1/2006 has not been agreed to so far.The Government side is not concerned about the retired employees. Unless the trade union leaders put on a huge pressure on the government side they may not agree to the demand.

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I agree with the comment of Sri Ramachanran K.K.I am one of the retired employee who did not get any benefit either from ACP or from MACP as MACP was implemented from 1.9.2008. I rendered more than 30 years of regular service in govt. of India and got only one promotion.So the government side should think about retired employees also who could not get any benefit from ACP or MACP and retired during the period between 1.1.2006 and 31.8.2008

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This is with reference to the MACP Joint Committee meeting held on 27/7/2012 item No.2-date of effect of MACP scheme.The reason advanced by the official side for not accepting the demand for implementing MACP with effect from 01/01/2006 is that ACP scheme was made effective from a later date.There were so many injustices during the process of implementation of fifth CPC. This was one of the injustices.The same injustices need not be repeated.The reluctance on the part of the official side to accept the request to implement the MACP scheme with effect from 1/1/2006 is only to deny the benefits some of the retired employees would have received had the scheme been implemented with retrospective effect.There are so many ill lucky and unfortunate retired employees who did not get any benefit either from ACP or from MACP.I request the trade union leaders to apply maximum pressure on the Government side to compel them to implement the MACP with effect from 1/1/2006.

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entry pay anomaly is still remain. as in my earlier post I have mentioned that in Rly. it creates greatest anomaly, where a person who promoted to 4600/-G.P(SSE) of technical category will fixed at 17140/- after 01-01-2006, where as a Sr.SO(A) having promoted (G.P.4800/-)prior to 01-01-2006 pay fixed at 6500*1.86 +4800=16890, as there is no provision of direct recruitment in Sr.SO(A). Is that not a big joke, no body bothers about it, no union or administrative officials, actually all are foolish people not think about the full picture

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The minutes issued by the Government is totally against the minutes by the Staff side leader as well as Secretary General of Confederation; particularly on the individual options of ACP of MACP. How this can happen?. Whether anybody from staff side had given consent to this minutes before issuance?How and when the issues of the employees put into financial losses will be addressed and anomaly removed?When the Group A are being given with 5/6 financial upgradations in hierarchy of their posts,what justifications for seizure of existing privileges of minimum 2 financial upgradations as per the hierarchy?-BABU O V

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No clarification has come for railway supervisors,grade 6500-10500, for fixation in converting first into grade 7450-11500 for fixation from 01-01-2006

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IT IS HIGHLY ACCEPTABLE TO ALL THE CENTRAL GOVT. EMPLOYEES TO IMPLEMENT THE MACPS WEF 01-JAN-2006. IT MAY ALSO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF MACPS OF EACH EMPLOYEE BE WEF 01-JAN-2006 AND NOT FROM THE RETROSPECTIVE DATE OF ENTRY LEVEL OF THE EMPLOYEE. THE SPIRIT OF THE MACPS IS THAT WHEN AN EMPLOYEE FAILS TO GET ANY UPGRADATION WITHIN 10 YEARS, HE MAY BE GRANTED FINANCIAL UPGRADATION. NOW, THE CURRENT MACPS IS IMPLEMENTED IN SUCH A WAY THAT MANY SENIOR EMPLOYEES HAVE NOTHING FOR THEM AS THEY HAVE ALREADY GOT THREE PROMOTIONS WITH THEIR HARD WORK, ALMOST 20 OR MORE YEARS BACK AND NOW THEY ARE STRAGGLING IN THE SAME SCALE SINCE LAST 20+ YEARS. IT IS RIDICULOUS. HENCE I URGE ALL THE LIKE MINDED COMRADES TO RAISE YOUR VOICE FOR UPGRADATION IN THE INDIVIDUAL SCALE/GRADE PAY AFTER EVERY 10 YEARS WEF JAN-2006 IN THE RESPECTIVE HIERARCHY.

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sunil kr mishra mod

since two meeting, we are hearing about doubling of patient care allowances/ hospital patient care allowances. when it will come in existance. we are waiting for it egarly.

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The cut of date 31-08-2008 for old ACP is Just like cutting lifeline of a Employee, which is unlawful and against natural justice. At least an individual should be allowed to exercise his option( date ) to continue in old ACP and then to switch over new MACP Scheme.

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Staff side leaders should be adamant on ACP option other wise should organise mass protest in support of lower rung Govt. employees.The UPA Govt. has crushed the lower category employees. So I suggest not to VOTE FOR UPA candidates unless the Option for ACP is given.

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is there any chance for railway supervisors in grade 6500-10500 to fix in converting first into grade 7450-11500 for fixation from 01/01/2006 as the post itself carrying more responsibility.

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Respecte Sir

Kindly updae us when will the point no 8.3 "about fixation of pay on promotion would be fixed at the prescribed minimum of the entry pay as provided for the direct recruitment".. be implementede, when will DOPT implement this rule...

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Its almost six months official site accepted the pay fixation on entry level side. but there is no consequence till date. How long the order from DoPT are expected to come in this regard.

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there will be no formal orders on minimum entry pay as decided in the nAc meeting. Finance ministry has rejected the proposal and for further detailed information use RTI Act. It is true believe me . i just want to communicate the message to all of u

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when will be orders regarding fixing pay of promotee at par with the direct recruitee will be issued by the finance ministery. its already very later.

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Kindly clarify my problem plea..
I promoted as PGT working in Rly, Jr college,GP is 4800/.Therese no DR element to this post.But due to the short fall of the in service candidates another two members have been recruited directly through RRB for the same post after 1-1-2006 and they are juniors to me and drawing higher pay than me.(13350+4800=18150)

In this connection I have applied for stepping up of pay on par with my juniors.But the competent authority has been denied my request as I am not eligible.
Kindly clarify either I am eligible for stepping up of pay or not? My ID somal.bhukya@gmail.com

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Sir kindly clarify my problem please
I enrolled in army on 12 Mar 2005 & my pay has been fixed at Rs 6250/- + Rs 2000/- as grade pay as on 01 Jan 2006. Whereas pay of a direct entry PBOR who enrolled on or after 01 Jan 2006 has been fixed atRs 6460/- + Rs 2000/-
Please clarify my pay required to be stepped up at par the pay of a junior or not? What will be my DNI? My id is mukulnag123@gmail.com. Thanking u.

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6th National Anomaly Committee meeting may please note this:

The staff who were in the scale of Rs.6500-10500 (pre-revised) should have been given the next higher grade of Rs. 7450-11500 (pre-revised) but in spite of this they have been given the scale of Rs. 6500-10500 (pre-revised) with the Grade pay of Rs. 4600 and this is a great anomalies and monitory loss of the staff after their pay fixation. As per the fitment table recommended in the report of VI Central Pay Commission the scale Rs. 6500-10500 (pre-revised) is placed in the GP of Rs. 4200 whereas the next higher grade of Rs. 7450-11500 (pre-revised) is placed in the GP of Rs. 4600. But, in the ICAR to Tech. Officers who were in the pay scale of Rs. 6500-10500/(Pre Revised) the fixation of pay only the GP is given as per the recommendations of the pay commission but the scale of next higher grade of Rs. 7450-11500 (pre-revised) has not been given to the tech. staff. But they have upgraded the pay of Administrative Staff who were drawing Rs 6500-10500/- (PR)saying that they are in different cadre.

Before 6PC both were travelling in same boat but now it is not their(Admin. Staff) boat is big and Tech staff's boat is small. Please try to resolve this matter in coming meeting.

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In the minutes of the meeting of 17th July 2012 under point no. 8.14 Item No.44 — Anomaly in the pay scale/pay band and grade pay of Library Information Assistants, it was mentioned that "It was informed that the issues raised in the representation received from the Staff Side would be considered after obtaining comments from the Ministry of Culture, as the Nodal Ministry on the subject and Ministry of Human Resource Development.", after a year has lapsed the comments seems has yet not been obtained, can anyone tell how much time does Government body requires to collect the comment and/or how much time another Government body requires in submitting their comments? Is there any time frame for this NAC to adopt in submitting its report for action or is it just an another committee which can meet as a get-together meeting in the name of meeting and go away and sleep without any responsibility.

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Jitender Manocha mod

Meeting held on 17.07.2012, (Item No.8.3[Item No.5 (ii), (iv)(with 32 & 33), (v)(vii) - Rule 8 of the Revised Pay Rules Fixation of pay on promotion]). What is the purpose of such meeting if no instruction is issued from DOPT w.r.t. decision. All the departments can never act upon the basis of Minutes of the Meeting and rightly there is no sanctity of MoM without instructions

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PLEASE NOTE THIS ISSUE FOR NEXT ANOMALY MEETING !

Between two increments difference should not be more than 12 months . In case of promotion, persons joined on January 2-31 must be granted the increment of July because they are not new, they are serving continuously. I was promoted after thirty years but my junior (3 years junior) is getting higher pay just because of joining on 1.1.2006 (joined 20 days before me).

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The anomoly in the Non CSS cadre may also be taken up in the 6th Anomaly Committee. The Central Govt. Union must initiate the burning issues of Non CSS cadre in one eye to make justice

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The matter may be taken up with the Central Govt. for granting next grade after rendering 8 or 10 years of service of particular cadre including MACP which are benificial to employees. For example A got promotion after four year, then got promotion after 10 years then got promotion after 8 years and now on working on the same scale in the last 10 years. The grade pay is of the applicant is at par with lower 1 grade. the matter may be taken up for appropriate decision

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6th National Anomaly Committee meeting may please take up the isssue for providing justice to Non CSS cadre

The staff who were in the scale of Rs.6500-10500 (pre-revised) should have been given the next higher grade of Rs. 7450-11500 (pre-revised) but in spite of this they have been given the scale of Rs. 6500-10500 (pre-revised) with the Grade pay of Rs. 4600 and this is a great anomalies and monitory loss of the staff after their pay fixation. As per the fitment table recommended in the report of VI Central Pay Commission the scale Rs. 6500-10500 (pre-revised) is placed in the GP of Rs. 4200 whereas the next higher grade of Rs. 7450-11500 (pre-revised) is placed in the GP of Rs. 4600. But, in the ICAR to Tech. Officers who were in the pay scale of Rs. 6500-10500/(Pre Revised) the fixation of pay only the GP is given as per the recommendations of the pay commission but the scale of next higher grade of Rs. 7450-11500 (pre-revised) has not been given. It is requested that the employees who was in the pay scale of 6500-10500 which is upgraded to 7450-11500, the pay may be fixed as per the fitment table of 7450 not in the 6500 fitment table. This anomaly need to be removed in the interest of serving employees in the other departments either attached or subordinate or autonomous body.

Before 6PC both were travelling in same boat but now it is not their(Admin. Staff) boat is big and non-CSS or Tech staff's boat is small. Please try to resolve this matter in coming meeting.

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Can anybody answer me? It is heard that DoPT has denied the entry pay to the promotees (Point No.8.3 of 5th NAC). If it is true, what is fun of holding the meeting of NAC and taking decisions by the official side?

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I am working in a central govt.dept.In my dept administrative staffs in pre-revised pay scale 5500-175-9000 are now placed in pay band two with GP 4600 but technical staffs with the same pre revised scale of 5500-175-9000 are getting GP of 4200.
Pse advice me so that I could get justice.

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Do you have any idea about the anomaly in the pay scale/pay band and grade pay of Library Information Assistants discussed in the last NAC meeting .

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no discussion about LDC grade pay ¿¿¿

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Please tell me whether any order has been passed till date, for settling the issue of promottee inspectors of income tax dept. drawing lesser basic salary i.e. less than entry level basic salary than direct recruit inspectors of income tax department ie. their basic entry level pay....

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